What we pay

What we pay for houses in Huntington

The short version: less than a renovated house on your street sells for, and more than you will net on a property you cannot afford to fix. Here is exactly how we get to the number.

How we arrive at a number

The honest answer on a house is that we work backwards from what it is worth once it is fixed, subtract what fixing it costs, and subtract what we need to make for the risk of being wrong about either. There is no secret to it and no algorithm.

  • What it is worth repaired. Not the Huntington median of $935,000 on its own, but what houses like yours on your street actually closed at recently.
  • What the work costs. Roof, boiler, electric, the kitchen and bath. In Huntington the stock is largely victorian and colonial, and on houses that age the mechanicals are usually the expensive part rather than the cosmetics.
  • How long we will hold it. The median Huntington house goes under contract in about 38 days once it is showable, then waits 45 to 60 days more on the buyer's lender. Ours has to get to showable first, and we carry taxes and insurance across the whole of it.
  • What we are wrong about. Opening a wall finds things. That risk is priced in, which is a large part of why a cash number sits below a retail number.

Why the number works for us and not for you

This is the part most cash buyers are vague about, so here it is plainly. We run millions of dollars of construction a year. That volume buys materials at contractor pricing and keeps the same crews working year round, which means the identical renovation costs us roughly half what a homeowner would pay to have it done.

That gap is the business. It is also why doing the work yourself before selling so rarely pays: you would be buying the same roof and the same boiler at retail, then hoping the market hands it back to you at resale. It usually does not. We are not making money because you sold cheaply. We are making it because we build cheaply.

And if the number does not work for you, say so. We would rather hear that than talk anyone into anything. We will look at your situation and tell you honestly what we think your options are, including the ones that do not involve us. Plenty of people are better off listing with an agent, and when you are one of them we will say so rather than let you find out later.

Why the number sits below retail

It is worth being precise about this rather than leaving it as an impression. The gap between what a renovated house on your street fetches and what we pay is not a margin taken out of your pocket. It is four specific costs, and every one of them would otherwise be yours.

The repairs, paid up front rather than at closing. The months of carrying the house while that work runs, with taxes, insurance and utilities running through all of them. The commission and closing costs on the far side. And the risk that opening a wall finds something worse, which on older Huntington stock happens often enough to have a price.

A homeowner paying retail for that work usually cannot recover it in the sale price. We run millions of dollars of construction a year, so the same work costs us in the region of half what you would be quoted, and that difference is what funds the offer.

What the two paths cost in Huntington

Work it against Huntington's own numbers. The median sale here is $935,000. A 5% commission on that is $46,750, and seller closing costs of about 2% add roughly $18,700. Those are costs we can cover on our side. That is $65,450 gone before anyone counts the repairs it took to get the house listable.

There are two waits in a listed sale and people usually only count the first. In Huntington the median house takes about 38 days to go from listed to a signed contract. Then it waits again, typically 45 to 60 days, while the buyer's lender orders an appraisal and underwrites the loan. Call it 83 to 98 days from sign to keys, assuming nothing goes wrong.

The part worth understanding is what a signed contract actually guarantees, which is less than most sellers assume. A retail buyer with a mortgage contingency can walk away right up to the end. If they do not qualify, if the appraisal comes in under the price, if they change their mind and let the financing lapse. A share of deals die exactly there, after months of waiting, and the house goes back on the market with time on it. We are not borrowing anything, so there is no lender to satisfy, no appraisal to come in low and no contingency to exercise.

 Listing with an agentSelling to us
Sale price$935,000 (Huntington median)Our written offer
Commission−$46,750None
Seller closing costs−$18,700We can cover them
Repairs before listingOut of pocketNone
CleanoutYoursOurs
ShowingsUntil it sellsOne visit
Listed to signed contract38 days (Huntington median, once listable)24 hours to a written offer
Contract to closing45 to 60 days (waiting on the buyer's lender)A date you choose
Total wait83 to 98 days if nothing falls throughYours to set
Can the buyer walk?Yes (mortgage contingency runs to the end)No financing to fall through
Before repairs and carrying$869,550The number we put in writing

The listing column assumes a 5% commission and seller closing costs of about 2%. Both vary. We have not subtracted repairs or the cost of carrying the house while it sits, because those depend on the property. A house in good condition listed with a good agent can absolutely beat a cash offer, and we will say so if that is your situation.

What we do not deduct

Just as important as what comes out of the number is what does not. We do not charge a fee for the visit, a fee for the offer, or a commission of any kind. We do not ask you to credit us for repairs we are going to make anyway, and we do not hold back a sum against something an inspection might find, because there is no inspection contingency.

Seller closing costs of about 2%, around $18,700 on a $935,000 sale, are costs we can cover on our side. The figure we put in writing is the figure on the closing statement.

What you do not pay

Every line below is a cost of listing a house the retail way that simply does not arise here.

Agent commission
$46,750 at 5% of the Huntington median
none
Seller closing costs
About $18,700 on a $935,000 sale. We can cover these.
none
Repairs to make it listable
Whatever the house needs, paid up front
none
Cleanout and removal
Per truckload, before anyone views it
none
Carrying costs while it waits
Taxes, insurance and utilities across the 83 to 98 days it takes to find a buyer and then wait on their lender
none

Getting a second opinion on our number

We would rather you did. Take the written offer to a local agent and ask for a market analysis, which most will do at no charge. Ask them two things: what the house would fetch renovated, and what it would fetch listed in its current condition today.

If those numbers, minus the commission, minus the repairs, minus the months of carrying it, beat ours, then list it. That is the right answer and we will say so ourselves if we think it is where you are. An offer that only looks good while you are not allowed to check it is not one we want to be making.

Common questions

Will you pay market value?

No, and anyone who says they will is not telling you the truth. We pay below what a renovated house fetches, because we are buying it unrenovated and carrying it. What we are honest about is how far below, and why.

Why not just list it?

Often you should. A house in decent condition in Huntington listed with a good agent will usually beat our number even after the $46,750 commission. The arithmetic changes when the house needs work, when you cannot wait 83 to 98 days, or when a buyer's mortgage falling through would be a disaster for you.

Can I get the offer in writing?

Yes, always, and within 24 hours. Not a range, not a "we can probably do around". A figure you can take to an attorney or an agent for a second opinion.

Do you lower the price later?

No. What we put in writing is what we close at.

Do you publish a formula?

No, and be careful with anyone who does. A published equation applied to a house nobody has walked is a marketing device, not a valuation. What we will do is explain every input that goes into your number and answer questions about any of them.

What if I think the number is too low?

Tell us why, and show us what you are comparing it to. Sometimes the comparison is a renovated house and the gap is the work, which we will walk you through. Sometimes you know something about the property we did not, and the number moves. Either way, take it to an agent for a second opinion first.